[Bonus] ATLT 03 From Bear Scams to Octopus Plans: The Wicked Week Grindr Went Down

In this Bonus episode of the All the latest things, we uncover some of the strangest news stories. We discuss a wild insurance scam involving bear suits and luxury cars, Mattel's 'Wicked' doll packaging error that accidentally led to adult websites, and the possibility of octopuses taking over the world. We also talk about the Grindr app crash at the Republican National Convention and its unexpected reasons and Trump's speech that sounded a lot like 'Legally Blonde.'

Topics we cover this week

• Bear Suit Insurance Scam:
• Mattel's 'Wicked' Doll Mishap:
• Octopuses Taking Over the World:
• Grindr Crash at the RNC:
• Trump's 'Legally Blonde' Speech Controversy:
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[00:00:00] Kyle Risi: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the compendium of all the latest things. The sidekick to an assembly of fascinating and intriguing things, where we dive into all the things that we've discovered over the last seven days, from weird news to mind boggling facts.

[00:00:17] This is the compendium of all the latest things. 

[00:00:21] I'm, of course, co host number one, Kyle Recy. And I'm 

[00:00:25] Adam Cox: your other co host, Adam Cox. 

[00:00:27] Good episode last week. What one was it? Oh, the shark arm attack 

[00:00:30] Kyle Risi: in good ol Coogee Bay. Yes. Back to Australia.

[00:00:33] Australia has all the best stories. 

[00:00:34] Adam Cox: They do. They have like, all the animals that will kill you and all the wild stories that they have. Yeah. Emus that will run a riot. What did you think of last week's episode? Um, well I did it. We covered the shark arm murders, which was this bizarre and, quite a famous case in Sydney, Australia, back in 1935. It all started when a four and a half meter tiger shark was caught off the coast of Coogee and was placed [00:01:00] in a public aquarium for all the public.

[00:01:03] It wasn't really an aquarium though, was it? It was more like a swimming pool. It was a swimming pool. They called it the Coogee bath or something like that. 

[00:01:10] Kyle Risi: Yeah, that to me, that's a swimming pool or an actual bath. That's just really big.

[00:01:14] Adam Cox: It was, and it was a public holiday. And so it was a time when everyone was out and They were putting on a bit of a show and spectacle to come see this giant tiger shark.

[00:01:23] And yeah, the crowd was watching it. And then all of a sudden it basically vomited up a human arm. 

[00:01:29] Kyle Risi: So disgusting. Can you imagine watching that? But I really loved it because of course When the arm got regurgitated, it contained a very important clue for the police because it had a very distinctive tattoo on it which led them onto this mad chase to track down the owner of the arm which turned out to be a local crook called James Smith.

[00:01:50] Adam Cox: Jimmy. I guess James is short for Jimmy, isn't he? Yeah, we call him Jimmy. And so once they tracked him down, they asked his wife and she was like, yeah, he does go missing. He was on a [00:02:00] fishing trip. 

[00:02:00] Kyle Risi: Every now and again, he goes missing. 

[00:02:02] Adam Cox: Um, and so, 

[00:02:04] Kyle Risi: Yeah. So fishing trip was code for 11 man orgy. 

[00:02:08] Adam Cox: Um, And yeah, there were lots of theories that emerged. Um, did he fake his own death? Did he get attacked out at sea? Or was he bumped off because he was involved in criminals? Because he was known to be, what was the word now? A fizz, a fizzgigger. 

[00:02:23] Kyle Risi: A fizzgigger. I love that word. 

[00:02:25] Adam Cox: Uh, because he would, uh, dob in other people to the police. Oh, 

[00:02:28] Kyle Risi: so he was a rat, wasn't he? He was a rat, yeah. That's it, I remember.

[00:02:31] Adam Cox: And so these other criminals were like, We need to get rid of him because He's spoiling our fun. 

[00:02:35] Kyle Risi: That actually leads to some really other interesting theories that has emerged from this because of course you gave your theories in the show, which we're not going to spoil.

[00:02:42] But other people have said that maybe he faked his own death as a way to kind of a escape the scrutiny of the other criminal underlord people that were there. And yeah, and or just to escape from the life of crime because he was pretty much fed up of it. [00:03:00] So a lot of interesting theories. 

[00:03:01] Adam Cox: But he had to cut off his own arm.

[00:03:03] Kyle Risi: Yeah, exactly. So that was the thing. 

[00:03:05] Adam Cox: So he had not just done like a finger. 

[00:03:07] Kyle Risi: Yeah. I recognise that finger anyway. All these women go, yep, I recognise that finger. So yeah, it was a really good story. So if you haven't checked that out, I would definitely recommend it. Because I think that's probably going to be probably one of your most funnest ones that you've done.

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[00:04:22] But Adam, without further ado, shall we get on with this week's All The Ladies Sings? 

[00:04:27] Let's go for it. 

[00:04:28] Adam Cox: so my first all the latest things for this week is What do you get when you mix a luxury car, a fake bear, and a 142, 000 insurance scam? 

[00:04:43] Kyle Risi: I have no idea. 

[00:04:44] Adam Cox: Well, it's one of the wildest fraud cases I've read recently. 

[00:04:48] Kyle Risi: Why is this not a main episode then? 

[00:04:49] Adam Cox: Well, I don't know if it's a full episode, but hey, it's just a little side note.

[00:04:53] But what's happened is four Los Angeles area residents were recently arrested and [00:05:00] charged with insurance fraud after allegedly using a bear suit to fake wild animal damage to their luxury vehicles. It's been dubbed Operation Bearclaw by the California authorities. 

[00:05:11] Kyle Risi: Why does it always need to have a weird name like Operation, like, Scandally Clad Lady or something weird like that? Just, just call it like, tracking the guys in the weird bear suits. 

[00:05:23] Adam Cox: I don't know. It doesn't sound as fun, does it? 

[00:05:25] I guess not. 

[00:05:26] Um, but what's happened is that when the suspects claimed that a bear had entered their 2010 Rolls Royce Ghost while it was parked in Lake Arrowhead, um, causing extensive interior damage, obviously, the insurance people went to have a look at this and, were a bit like, Hmm, this looks a bit odd.

[00:05:43] And I think because there had been several other vehicles that had been attacked by this same bear, People are like, this seems really strange. Bears just don't, roll up and attack people's luxury vehicles. 

[00:05:54] Kyle Risi: No, I guess not. Unless there's like a picnic basket or something like that in there. 

[00:05:58] Adam Cox: Yeah, they'll just have, I don't know, [00:06:00] honey out or something. 

[00:06:01] Kyle Risi: Yogi Bear's back again! 

[00:06:03] Adam Cox: I think the other thing that tipped it off was, um, in, um, this particular area. So Lake Arrowhead, it's well known for its black bear population. So at first you might think, okay, yeah, there are bears about, but the video evidence provided by the suspects raised some serious red flags when it showed a furry creature climbing into the Rolls Royce and scratching the seats.

[00:06:24] But something wasn't quite right because, the bear that was in this Rolls Royce was a brown bear Okay, not a black bear. And so they're like, we don't we don't have brown bears around here. Yeah And also it's moving very much like a human Yeah, that's and it's pulled out a knife to scratch them.

[00:06:39] So I was trying to think how does a bear suit actually have like I don't know, sharp enough claws to actually do any damage. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know how they did it.

[00:06:47] Kyle Risi: Well, I mean, I've heard they can rip your face off with one swipe. Oh, can they? Yeah. 

[00:06:51] Adam Cox: Damn. So that's when investigators brought in a biologist from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife who confirmed that, to the [00:07:00] authorities, which I'd already suspected that this wasn't a bear. It was definitely a person in a bear costume. It's like, I love how they had to get an expert in. You've got all these people, these humans, police, that are looking at the TV screen going, that's a guy. But we probably should just call the biologist just in case. 

[00:07:14] Kyle Risi: Can't be sure. We need an expert, guys. 

[00:07:16] Adam Cox: So as the investigation unfolded, police discovered that the group had filed not one, but three insurance, claims previously. Bears, the smoking gun, right? Yeah, for bear attacks. And these claims included a Mercedes, actually I think they were all Mercedes, but quite nice ones.

[00:07:31] And each time they allegedly used the same bear to stage the damage. Where did they get the suit from? I don't know, I guess eBay? I have no idea, maybe a dress up shop?

[00:07:40] So the California police executed a search warrant at the suspect's home, and there it was, the bear costume that had basically done all this damage, and even metal tools shaped like claws to scratch up the cars. 

[00:07:51] Oh, I see. 

[00:07:52] They had, like, thought about it, how they were going to do it. Um, so yeah, if convicted, the group could face significant jail time for defrauding insurers [00:08:00] out of nearly 142, 000.

[00:08:02] Really? 

[00:08:03] Kyle Risi: So they haven't actually been charged just, well, they've been charged, but they haven't actually been convicted. 

[00:08:07] Adam Cox: Not just yet, so we can keep an eye out 

[00:08:09] Kyle Risi: Idiots, 

[00:08:10] well actually I was looking up other really creative kind of You situations where people have tried to disguise themselves as animals. And I came across the story from, uh, 2012 again, Australia. Like I say, Australia has all the best stories, but basically this is dubbed as one of the most creative jail breaks ever because prisoners in Australia dressed up as a bunch of emus, which of course are these large flightless birds using basically blankets and painted cardboard to blend in with the flock. That were wandering around the prison yard. And the guards didn't notice the difference until they saw the emus sprinting towards freedom without the rest of the birds, because they don't normally flock together. I'm like, okay, something's up.

[00:08:53] And so, yeah, they disguise themselves as emus.

[00:08:56] Adam Cox: I really want to see the picture of this because I can't imagine [00:09:00] how cardboard convincingly, I don't know. 

[00:09:03] Kyle Risi: This story should supersede any other. The Alcatraz Great Escape. 100%. That's creative. And, like, where do they get the opportunity to, paint? Art class.

[00:09:14] Adam Cox: We know that people in prison have art class. With Maggie the Cock watching on. Do you know what? They should really just stop art class in prison. Then you wouldn't have this issue. 

[00:09:23] Kyle Risi: Too much creativity inspires people to break out. 

[00:09:26] Adam Cox: That's hilarious. So I, I really, is there any pictures of this or not?

[00:09:29] Kyle Risi: No, nothing. I like, I had five, I read your notes this morning and I had five minutes to quickly pull something together. And this is the first thing that came up. So I don't even know if it's true. 

[00:09:38] Adam Cox: Okay, we'll do some other research after this. And so yeah, that's my first latest thing for this week. 

[00:09:44] Kyle Risi: So my first all the latest things for this week is Mattel, the iconic toy company behind Barbie and so many other childhood staples. Basically they've released a series of [00:10:00] Wicked dolls featuring of course Elphaba and Glinda. coinciding with the upcoming movie release, I think like later this month.

[00:10:08] Now, those dolls are expected to become one of the hottest selling toys of 2024. However, they've encountered a significant issue because after shipping the dolls, consumers have started to notice a bit of a typo on the packaging. Instead of printing wickedmovie. com, the URL reads wicked. com. And when you visit that website, it's a hardcore porn website. 

[00:10:32] Adam Cox: No! On a kid's toy! 

[00:10:34] Kyle Risi: God, because they're gonna just look, they're gonna, their phones, they're 

[00:10:37] Adam Cox: gonna 

[00:10:38] Kyle Risi: look at that website. 100%,

[00:10:39] so I don't know who was in charge of proofreading this, but some, I don't know. One is getting fired. I'm so glad it's not me.

[00:10:46] You work in marketing. So it's so easy for you to potentially make a gaffe like that. Does that keep you up at night? 

[00:10:54] Adam Cox: Yeah, mistakes could happen. Like you might put the wrong price or the wrong USP or something like that or feature of a [00:11:00] product, but to actually direct people to a whole other website, which has got porn on.

[00:11:04] Kyle Risi: Exactly. And the thing is though, if, because you work obviously in online marketing, so I guess it's just quickly changing the URL or changing the link, right? But this is on packaging, so what the hell do you do? 

[00:11:14] Adam Cox: Anything that's gone to print. Yeah, that's you either recognize it and you have to suck up the cost. Or yeah, it goes out there and or cause all this controversy 

[00:11:24] Kyle Risi: So Mattel of course been scurrying to alert parents and tell them just to throw away the packaging and not visit the website But of course, this is inadvertently drawn more attention to it And now the dolls are selling out in record speed ahead of obviously being pulled from the shelves because kids are expecting these dolls for Christmas and parents know that there's a recall coming and they're like but my kid wants the damn doll.

[00:11:47] So they're going out and trying to get the doll but then also collectors are realising that this misprint will become a valuable collector's item. So the Streisand effect has kind of been created [00:12:00] around this controversy, leading to this massive surge in demand for these dolls.

[00:12:05] And it's just crazy. Mattel did issue a statement over the weekend which basically read, We deeply regret this unfortunate error and are taking immediate action to remedy this. Parents are advised that the misprinted incorrect website is not appropriate for children. Consumers who already have the product are advised to discard the product packaging or obscure the link and make contact to Mattel customer service for further information.

[00:12:30] Further information? But the thing is, my issue there is that one of the options that they're giving them is just obscure the link. Yeah. But what are they going to do? Throw it away, 

[00:12:37] Adam Cox: like, and 

[00:12:38] Kyle Risi: further 

[00:12:38] Adam Cox: information in terms of 

[00:12:39] Kyle Risi: like Well put a sticker on it, is what they're saying. Throw it away.

[00:12:42] Adam Cox: Yeah, it's almost like, um, they should, like, give out, or make people sign, like, a waiver form. Yeah. Like, if you do this, like, to say, like, I'm aware. 

[00:12:50] Kyle Risi: If your kid becomes addicted to porn. Yeah. We don't take any responsibility. 

[00:12:54] Adam Cox: You could have waited for us to, yeah, bring out new dolls. 

[00:12:57] Kyle Risi: But at the same time, there's probably a really easy defense [00:13:00] against that. Like, oh, yeah, sorry, your child was, like, stumbled across a porn site. Like, he's seven, of course he knows what orgies are.

[00:13:06] I don't know. 

[00:13:09] Adam Cox: Websites for mummy and daddies. 

[00:13:10] Kyle Risi: I have this game with my little nephew when he was younger, I think like eight, I would test to see what the dirtiest word he knew. So I'd be like, sort of like the word, I'd be like, Hey, Matthew, bitch. And then he would say, you're a smelly snake. And then as, so it would be like really innocent initially. 

[00:13:29] Adam Cox: And then as he You just called your nephew a bitch. Hang on, this has not started innocent. 

[00:13:35] Kyle Risi: But then as the years have gone on, Every time I've gone up there, We would then play the game, And then he would get, like, wildly more and more inappropriate, like, to the point that I was shocked. I was like, I need to stop this game. Yes. Yes, Kyle. So he's obviously going online, researching these dirty words, or coming across them, not researching them.

[00:13:56] Adam Cox: Yeah, I guess, um, after this in the playground, your kids. Yeah, [00:14:00] exactly. 

[00:14:00] Kyle Risi: Exactly. When, like I said, when you get to seven, you know what an orgy is. I don't know if I did. No, now. Now.

[00:14:07] Adam Cox: That's horrendous. I am worried for people. 

[00:14:11] Kyle Risi: But also, this kind of reminds me of the Little Mermaid VHS controversy in the early 1990s. Do you remember that? No, I don't think I do. Imagine the Little Mermaid VHS. There is Ariel and the prince sitting on a rock up on the surface. And in the background there is the castle that Ariel is in. The Little Mermaid lived in, right? Under the sea, right? All made from coral and stuff. And there appears to be a very obvious phallic depiction within the castle spire in the background. Like, Adam, it's not suggestive. It doesn't kind of look like a willy. It's blatantly a golden willy. 

[00:14:49] Adam Cox: I don't think I've seen this. It's, it's, it's very obvious. When you see it, So just googled it and yeah, when they, when they circle it and draw your attention to the sort of [00:15:00] golden willy in the castle. Yeah, I can definitely see it. Although I don't know if I would have ever picked that up. I don't know if it's that clear enough. 

[00:15:06] Kyle Risi: No, a kid wouldn't. No. But now that someone's pointed it out, as an adult, you go, You can't help but see it. That's a golden dildo. Suspiciously looks like the one in my drawer. Is what some random mum would say. And so yeah, that ended up being this big widespread controversy, causing outrage amongst parents, and eventually, obviously had to result in them redesigning the cover. 

[00:15:26] But come on, don't tell me that the designer didn't notice that. That's something classic that someone would just slip in there on purpose. 

[00:15:32] Adam Cox: Yeah. I thought like, oh, no one will notice this. But actually it did. It's subtle 

[00:15:36] Kyle Risi: enough to get past quality control. 

[00:15:39] Adam Cox: Yeah, fair enough. 

[00:15:40] Kyle Risi: But also, most recently, in August of 2024, Zara was forced to withdraw a children's T-shirt for like six year olds after complaints that the statement printed on the T-shirt was too sexually suggestive. Basically it read, the perfect snack. So I understand the outrage. 

[00:15:58] Adam Cox: Yeah, how did [00:16:00] someone not even think of that before that went out? Like even just hearing that just sounds creepy. Why would you stick that on a t shirt or a top? 

[00:16:06] Kyle Risi: Well, we're not trying to rationalize it. It's probably comes from a different country. It's probably printed like in Malaysia somewhere they translated into English and they put the perfect snack on it on a shirt 

[00:16:18] Adam Cox: Yeah, but that goes all the way up it gets to like I don't know and say English and or America or whatever It was on the website and no one's thinking should we be selling this? 

[00:16:29] Kyle Risi: And then the third one was of course The ongoing issue with laundry pods. Do you remember that? No. So, the Tide Pod scandal. Kids have been eating them because obviously they look like candies. Oh, yes. I do remember that. And so loads of toddlers were accidentally ingesting these, this was a serious problem.

[00:16:46] But then of course, it got picked up by Reddit and it got turned into this meme which kind of gave rise to the Tide Pod challenge, which Was, of course, completely fictitious because it was used to poke fun at Gen Z for being [00:17:00] complete idiots after years of you remember all that kind of like, Oh, just go and have some, uh, uh, avocado toast or whatever. Oh, you can't afford a house? Well, stop having avocado toast and ordering like Starbucks. So that was kind of indirect retaliation from that.

[00:17:14] So. Millennials started kind of poking fun at Gen Z But the reality was that it wasn't teenagers that were eating these Tide Pods It was actually really young kids because they had Look made them look like candies. So that's why now on the Tide Pod kind of bottles or kind of containers They have that child lock proof thingy where even I can't get into it.

[00:17:35] Adam Cox: That is quite hard. Even the cardboard ones quite hard to get into. Yeah, yeah, but they do look quite delicious actually So I look at them go if you were like a jelly sweet. 

[00:17:42] Kyle Risi: Yeah I get it. But yeah, back to Mattel. Someone, Someone is definitely getting fired, man. Or made redundant. I wonder if they're going to bring a clown with them to the redundancy hearing.

[00:17:54] Like the clown, instead of making like balloon animals, they're going to be making rude balloon penises. I don't know about that. While they [00:18:00] get fired. So that's my first of all the latest things for this week. Okay,

[00:18:05] Adam Cox: so my second all the latest thing for this week is, Have you ever thought, Who would take over the planet if humans were to go extinct? 

[00:18:16] Kyle Risi: Me. 

[00:18:17] Adam Cox: You. You're a human. Am I? I don't know. Probably like chimpanzees. Well, yeah, you'd think so because, you know, they're the closest relative to us. They can use tools. They can use tools.

[00:18:29] They're quite handy. They're aggressive. They 

[00:18:31] Kyle Risi: can rip your face off. 

[00:18:32] Adam Cox: They can. 

[00:18:33] Kyle Risi: And they have. Okay. I have that lined up as an episode about that woman who got her face ripped off by a chimp. Wasn't there a film about this or documentary? Yeah, I wanted to do an episode on that. Yeah. And then the damn documentary came out. So I'm like, okay, I'll wait till the hype goes down a bit. Oh, 

[00:18:46] Adam Cox: okay. Um, but no, it's not a chimpanzee. What is it? According to a professor, Tim Coulson from the University of Oxford, so I guess someone pretty intelligent, he says that [00:19:00] octopuses 

[00:19:01] Kyle Risi: Octopi. Octopi, 

[00:19:02] Adam Cox: octopuses. 

[00:19:04] Kyle Risi: think both are correct, actually, technically.

[00:19:06] Adam Cox: These eight armed marine marvels could be top contenders to take over the planet. Professor Coulson believes octopuses have the edge with their unmatched combination of dexterity and intelligence. Because, you know, they've got eight limbs and they're quite good at moving things around.

[00:19:22] Kyle Risi: Okay. 

[00:19:22] Adam Cox: And they're quite brainy as well, aren't they? Got good IQ. 

[00:19:25] Kyle Risi: Yeah, they are smart. They're like really good at problem solving. I've heard. 

[00:19:28] Adam Cox: Yeah, because They're called the brains of the sea and they already display quite Extraordinary problem solving abilities and communicate through a mesmerizing language of color flashes using specialized skin cells Which I didn't know about I don't know if you knew about it.

[00:19:43] Kyle Risi: Like they're really exceptional at the camouflage stuff, but they can also like You can see them running away from like a predator and as they go into all these little nooks and crannies just instantly they just adopt the colouring of whatever they've just landed into.

[00:19:57] Adam Cox: That's incredible. They can mimic those textures [00:20:00] around them and reflect light, I think it is, so they can appear brighter or duller or kind of blend in. So quite sci fi. So how do we think that they could rule the world? Well, Colson speculates that they might one day construct underwater cities Wow, I could even evolve the ability to hunt on land.

[00:20:19] Kyle Risi: Okay, so what kind of city we talking like fifth element 

[00:20:21] Adam Cox: like Atlantis, I don't know. But I feel like that's quite a stretch because right now, unless they are like plotting under the sea right now, that's going to take a while for them to build a city and then grow. Or be able to breathe, out of water, which 

[00:20:36] Kyle Risi: Well, they can, apparently they can, for 30 minutes.

[00:20:39] Adam Cox: Yeah, exactly, but I guess through evolution, they might be able to breathe out of water for longer than 30 minutes. This is what the guys, expecting. 

[00:20:46] Kyle Risi: And the thing is, though, we are talking about a long time, right? We're talking hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of years before this could happen. And it's plausible, right? I think how long it's taken us to evolve. We've only been around [00:21:00] 200, 000 years and we've only really been in the evolved state that we are now for like 10, 000 years. 

[00:21:06] Adam Cox: Yeah. I guess a lot of things need to happen and Also, they've got to mutate to a level. Maybe there's got to be an extinction event. 

[00:21:14] Kyle Risi: Yeah, we've got to be out of the picture first. I mean, it's inevitable that we will be at some point.

[00:21:18] Exactly. We're We're pretty known for being a bit of a cunt. 

[00:21:22] Adam Cox: We're circling that basin. 

[00:21:23] Kyle Risi: Yeah, circling the basin. I love that attitude. 

[00:21:27] Adam Cox: Um, and yeah, and also then if octopuses have got to survive. They've got to survive an asteroid event or whatever it might be. But yeah, it's a possibility. They're not ruling it out. These eight legged masterminds could end up becoming The new humans. 

[00:21:42] Kyle Risi: I think so. Like yeah, I understand that they've got all these remarkable capabilities like using coconut shells as homes and things like that They can open up bottles like they also have rapid adaption in terms of changing with their environment and stuff But I think the thing that they're lacking is that kind of social cooperation 

[00:21:58] You kind of like mentioned that they [00:22:00] could build these civilizations, but that takes they're more working together, right?

[00:22:04] like I don't think like we would be capable of the great things that we were unless we had learned how to cooperate with each other. So unless they do the same, I don't think one or two octopuses here or there across the ocean is going to be able to do great things. They're going to have to come together in some way.

[00:22:21] Adam Cox: Yeah, I guess they need a common cause. Maybe they'll see an octopus being attacked and then they're all like, No, that's it. That's enough. I'm not gonna be calamari. Ha ha ha ha ha! Yeah! No more calamari! 

[00:22:34] Octopuses have rights! Ha ha ha ha ha! 

[00:22:37] Adam Cox: So yeah, that's my second and last thing for this week.

[00:22:40] Kyle Risi: So my second to all the latest things for this week is that during this year's Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, Thousands of Republicans descended to the city to watch Trump accept his nomination for president as they do during these election cycles. And the RNC is [00:23:00] typically like attended by delegates and alternates and a bunch of a kind of party officials and various speakers and guests, right?

[00:23:06] So it's like, it's a convention. There's a whole affair and it goes on for four days. And of course this year it was being held in Milwaukee in a very important swing state Wisconsin. During the four day convention, a very popular hookup app amongst the alphabet community, known officially as 

[00:23:27] Adam Cox: Grindr, 

[00:23:28] Kyle Risi: crashed miserably.

[00:23:29] So Adam, for our innocent freaks of the show, do you want to just kind of give us a really short synopsis of what Grindr is? 

[00:23:38] Adam Cox: Um, that feels like a loaded question. Uh, it's, well, like you said, it's a hookup app. I think people generally use it as a hookup app.

[00:23:47] Kyle Risi: Well, I think that's what's happening here. 

[00:23:49] Adam Cox: So these, politicians, these Republicans, who are out on a sort of work weekend. Republican politicians. Politicians, yeah, who are away from their wives. Mm 

[00:23:59] Kyle Risi: [00:24:00] hmm. Meeting up 

[00:24:00] Adam Cox: with their friends. Yeah, yeah, their little friends. Yeah. I see daddy. 

[00:24:04] Kyle Risi: And of course the crash wasn't just out of the blue. It was because the service had seen a surge in demand for people logging into the app to obviously find other guys in the area. 

[00:24:13] And of course the speculation is that this traffic overload was caused by all these Republicans arriving in Milwaukee, which I think is kind of like, It's just the best kind of irony because they're the party that are always against. The alphabet community. 

[00:24:28] Adam Cox: Well, I suppose so. It seems that way. I don't know if they all are. No, 

[00:24:31] Kyle Risi: no, that's true. But, generally, in terms of policy, they don't have, gay people, trans people's best interests at heart. Yeah. 

[00:24:40] Adam Cox: I think, yeah, generally, those that are of the alphabet community side with Democrats.

[00:24:44] In most cases. 

[00:24:46] Kyle Risi: Yeah, so yeah, that's happened, and I found that really funny. 

[00:24:49] But that does remind me, actually, did you hear about Trump's commencement speech at the Liberty University recently where he has been accused of plagiarizing parts of his speech?

[00:24:58] No, I didn't know. [00:25:00] So, to set this up, probably one of the greatest films of all time, in my opinion, is Legally Blonde. Okay. 

[00:25:06] Adam Cox: Okay. 

[00:25:07] Kyle Risi: And of course, as you know, it follows the character Elle Woods, who's played by, I can't remember her name, something, Reese something. She was recently stabbed.

[00:25:14] Adam Cox: Witherspoon? 

[00:25:15] Kyle Risi: No, with a knife. That's horrendous. No, so yes, Rhys Witherspoon. So Elle, in the film, is a fashion savvy, sorority president from California who ends up enrolling at Harvard to try and win back her boyfriend.

[00:25:29] So, big red flag straight away. Like, never do anything for a man. And, of course, nobody takes her seriously. She's just seen as kind of this airhead which sets up the whole plot of the movie in that kind of classic hero's journey kind of story arc. 

[00:25:42] The plot is that Elle, L decides she's going to buckle down, she's going to prove everyone wrong, and she ends up graduating as a lawyer.

[00:25:49] So it's just really brilliant storytelling and that's why I love it. Spoiler alert, she does graduate and at her graduation she delivers this incredible speech which ties up the whole story together and [00:26:00] highlights how she's risen up out of adversity. Let's take a listen to that speech real quick. 

[00:26:05] Adam Cox: Okay.

[00:26:06] In my three years at Harvard, I have come to find that passion is a key ingredient in To the study and practice of law and of life. It is with passion, courage of conviction, and strong sense of self that we take our next steps into the world.

[00:26:23] Kyle Risi: Okay? Okay. So yeah. Do you remember that film? I don't think you're a massive fan of it. 

[00:26:27] Adam Cox: I've, I've watched, uh, I'm, I'm not huge. I 

[00:26:29] Kyle Risi: it's re with a SPO man. I get it. So this week people have pointed out that Trump's commencement speech at Liberty University sounds suspiciously like L Speech. Okay. Do you have a clip of that?

[00:26:41] I do. Take a listen.

[00:26:42] We take our next steps into the world. You must go forth into the world. It is with passion. Passion. Courage of conviction. Courage in your convictions. And most importantly. Most importantly. Have faith in yourself. Be true to yourself. We did it! I did [00:27:00] it.

[00:27:03] Adam Cox: Wow. Do you think, Someone is like, was watching that, or maybe his aide was watching that and going, this would be great for his little speech. 

[00:27:11] Kyle Risi: Yeah, no one's going to fact check 

[00:27:13] Adam Cox: this through chat GPT, change a few words. 

[00:27:16] Kyle Risi: It's just the 

[00:27:17] Adam Cox: end bit where she goes, I did it! And he 

[00:27:19] goes, we did it! We did it! I did it!

[00:27:22] Adam Cox: Brilliant. Um, did you hear that he was also looking to make, um, it public? America Great again? Well, yes, uh, he's still doing that, but he's also going to disclose, or wants to disclose, a report about UFOs and aliens. Well, not necessarily aliens, but UFOs. 

[00:27:39] Kyle Risi: Yeah, like they're called something weird now, aren't they?

[00:27:41] But I just don't know how I feel about this, because all of a sudden, everything that we know about UFOs from when we've done previous episodes, like the Roswell, is just like, Just says to me that they don't exist but now there's all this renewed kind of conspiracy theory around it I just don't know if I'll buy it.

[00:27:56] Adam Cox: I was listening to this podcast, Diary of a CEO, and they had this guy on, [00:28:00] Luis Elizondo, who used to work for the Pentagon, and he was talking about, his experience with UFOs or UAPs, I think that's the other word. Unidentified Why is 

[00:28:11] Kyle Risi: there, why did that spark an image of an OAP in my head?

[00:28:15] Adam Cox: But that means an Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. Um, but he was saying like he's got so much evidence because he's now written a book which had to go through the government for about 12 months in order to get cleared, had sections of it redacted and everything like this. 

[00:28:30] Kyle Risi: Okay, that's worrying. I mean, as if that, if that is true, that there's a bit of a smoking gun there, right? Like the government wanted to check. What is it that you know, and what is it that you're writing? 

[00:28:40] Adam Cox: Yeah, because I think, they seem a lot more open for it to be discussed, whereas before, what he was saying is like 70 years ago, anyone that wanted to talk about this, they would just, I don't know, do a smear campaign, say they've got mental health problems, all this, that, and the other.

[00:28:54] Kyle Risi: It's kind of what we saw with Roswell. 

[00:28:55] Adam Cox: Yeah, and so now they're trying to say that actually the tide is turning a little bit, and they [00:29:00] are a little bit more open. to talking about these events, because they've released certain footage where you see like these UAPs just moving really weirdly in space.

[00:29:09] Yeah, I've seen them. And they're saying like, there's nothing. In this world, that can replicate that, especially at the G force that that would create because you would just die. Octopuses. 

[00:29:16] Kyle Risi: Octopuses, 

[00:29:18] Adam Cox: maybe. Maybe that's what they're doing under the ocean.

[00:29:22] Kyle Risi: I mean the footage looks interesting, but it is still all really grainy. 

[00:29:25] Adam Cox: Well yeah, he says, but he says there's better footage out there, but they're not allowed to release that because it was probably recorded. Or it would give hints away about American security because either they were doing it in an area they shouldn't have been doing it, or they recorded it with equipment that they don't want people. to know that they've got because obviously that 

[00:29:45] Kyle Risi: kind of equipment. Do they not want people to know there's another camera out there that can like do some incredible things? 

[00:29:52] Adam Cox: Oh, I don't know. This is all, you know, intelligence. But he was saying it was quite interesting that Trump had come out and said this. [00:30:00] And what Trump had said is like, if he could get it released, He would release this information. Sure. And the question is who's stopping the Trump, the president of the U. S. From actually releasing information. 

[00:30:12] Kyle Risi: Is this what they call like the deep state where it's like it's like Oh, it's one above the president because at the same time the president only runs for like four years And this is 

[00:30:20] Adam Cox: exactly what he was saying like they're only in for four years So they don't, presidents don't always get to know all the information So there's certain presidents that were aware of Area 51 and what was going on there But they said that there's certain presidents, like Bill Clinton, he wanted to know, but he wasn't necessarily given that information.

[00:30:37] Kyle Risi: Oh, oh, so they're selective over it. Yeah. I get it though, because of things though. So many things in America are classified, right? So many secrets. They can't obviously give you a crash course as president on day one. And you don't have time to spend four years learning all the secrets.

[00:30:51] You only probably get told what you need to know. I buy that there's someone else running America, for sure. And all sorts of countries, not just America. [00:31:00] America's one of the most powerful countries in the world. So yeah, I get it. For sure. So who is the most powerful person in America? Probably head of military. 

[00:31:09] Adam Cox: Yeah, that's exactly what you're saying. They've got more power. power and sway because they can, veto certain information. So the guy, that was on this podcast was, he's written a book called Imminent, which has just come out. So I really want to read it because I think there's some interesting things in there.

[00:31:24] And what he's saying is he's not necessarily saying that there's aliens as such. He said, it was only like in the last hundred years that we've discovered microorganisms and stuff like that. There could be other things on this planet that we might consider to be an alien that we just can't see with our own eyes.

[00:31:37] Kyle Risi: Yeah, yeah, like we can't even begin to fathom what another intelligence looks like because they say like when you take a chimpanzee and a human and you compare how different our DNA is compared to that, it's minuscule. There's a minuscule amount of difference, but the difference Between our intelligence and our [00:32:00] capabilities based on that 1 percent difference in our DNA highlights just how crazy another intelligent life form could be who has a DNA that is profile differential, let's say a hundred percent different to us, right? Yeah. And you're right, we probably can't even see them. 

[00:32:17] Adam Cox: Yeah. So really interesting. It's kind of, yeah, leaning into the whole like, I don't know, tin hat or tinfoil hat kind of craziness. But I feel like there's something in there. Hey, listen, I'm gonna say it now. 

[00:32:30] Kyle Risi: For a lot of stuff during COVID, was considered as a lie or conspiracy theories and things like that. And actually a lot of stuff came out later on to be actually true. So for example, they were saying like, Oh, get one jab and that will cure you forever.

[00:32:46] Right? It didn't, we needed booster after booster after booster. They said that old masks would protect you. It turned out that masks weren't that effective at protecting you. It was only certain types of masks that were, of course they could help, but there was loads of misinformation and that those were kind [00:33:00] of within the of conspiracy theory. But as time went on, new information came to light, but actually it wasn't as cut and dry. Do you know what I mean? 

[00:33:07] Adam Cox: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:33:08] Kyle Risi: So yeah, who knows, but I'm still a bit skeptical, but I also don't necessarily want to read the book because I can be persuaded really easily. 

[00:33:17] Adam Cox: I'm getting you the book. 

[00:33:20] Kyle Risi: So yeah, that's my all the latest things for this week.

[00:33:24] So Adam, a few of you have written in with questions about us In particular, me. 

[00:33:32] Adam Cox: Did you come up with these questions? No! 

[00:33:35] Kyle Risi: So the ex Mimi, she said she loves my accent and she wants to know where I'm from. Am I British or am I Australian? And I mean Again, that's three times we've mentioned Australia in this episode.

[00:33:47] Yeah, I know. Australia has all the best things. Including me. I wish I was Australian, but I always make a point of mentioning how I spent my childhood running [00:34:00] wild and free on the great South African plain. So I think it's pretty obvious that I'm South African. So do you think I've still got the South African accent?

[00:34:07] Adam Cox: Do you think it's, do you still notice it? You have some words that you say, but no, you're kind of 

[00:34:12] Kyle Risi: Like what? 

[00:34:13] Adam Cox: Like Tile. Tile. Tile. Tile and towel. I can't tell the 

[00:34:17] Kyle Risi: difference, but you're saying. Tile. And ras. Well, I think I say rice now normally, but I used to go ras. Yeah. Yeah, some ras. I find that like when someone says, oh, can you speak a bit more South African, I try hammered up a bit and I just sound stupid.

[00:34:31] So I think I have kind of lost it a bit, but yeah, the X Mimi, I hope that clears that up, South African, wild and free, plains, Africa. 

[00:34:39] Adam Cox: Yeah. But what's your passport? 

[00:34:40] Kyle Risi: British. Yeah, there 

[00:34:41] Adam Cox: we 

[00:34:41] Kyle Risi: go. What the soundtrack, the soundtrack of my life is, uh, Toto Africa. It's going to take a lot to take me away from you. That one. I love it. Actually, while we're on the topic of the ex Mimi, she is one of the many people who are really divided on whether or not the Mendez [00:35:00] brothers were justified in killing their parents. 

[00:35:02] Adam Cox: Okay. What'd she say? 

[00:35:03] Kyle Risi: Well, she doesn't buy the abuse claims. And honestly, I kind of, I don't know. agree with her like they absolutely did it in cold blood to secure their inheritance. 100%. I don't think, yes, I'm not saying that they weren't abused, but I'm not, I'm saying that that wasn't their motivation for killing their parents. It must have been the inheritance.

[00:35:23] But regardless of obviously, Whether or not they were abused that is kind of a separate matter and murder is never justified in those situations ever Like if they were capable of planning and carrying out a calculated cold blooded murder of their parents Complete with the careful planning and the setting up of their alibis, then they were 100 percent capable of finding another way out of that situation surely After all, I mean, they were adults, right? It's not like they were kids. 

[00:35:52] Adam Cox: They were 18, one of them was. Yeah. I don't know. 

[00:35:54] Kyle Risi: That's considered an adult, Adam. So I'm assuming you were in the other camp then? 

[00:35:59] Adam Cox: Well, [00:36:00] you were in the other camp where we played the episode. I 

[00:36:01] Kyle Risi: was, but then I watched the Netflix show and then I was like,

[00:36:05] Adam Cox: Yeah, but the Netflix show is a drama which has played all sides of the story.

[00:36:09] Kyle Risi: How exactly, 

[00:36:11] Adam Cox: exactly. They've tried to stay impartial and let you make up your own mind. No, they didn't because they made one of the characters seem like a right dick. He was a dick. Yeah, but I don't know if he necessarily is a dick in real life. 

[00:36:21] Kyle Risi: He played, Adam, Milli Vanilli, girl I'm gonna miss you, at his mother's funeral. That is the actions of an absolute psychopath. Who does that? He just really liked that sound. 

[00:36:36] For me, there's no question that the motive was about money. And as the X Mimi points out. Their parents were at home in their pyjamas, watching TV, eating ice cream. If their parents were supposedly about to kill their sons, they wouldn't have been sitting around their PJs watching TV and eating ice cream.

[00:36:52] Do you know what I mean? But there are plenty of people like you, who completely disagree. And because of that, there's [00:37:00] this renewed attention on this case and people are literally calling for their release. 

[00:37:04] Adam Cox: I think it should be, retrialed. I'm not necessarily saying they should be re released or whatever. I think there's more to it than the previous trial that they had. And I think they left out a lot of information and stuff like that. So I just think it's worth a retrial. 

[00:37:19] Kyle Risi: Well, I mean, in October 2024, the Los Angeles County District attorney recommended to a judge that their sentence be reconsidered to 50 years to life That would mean that they would be eligible for parole immediately and essentially they would be released So, I mean it could happen if they get enough support and if a judge takes that seriously because they are Even still in the google trends. They're still up there. It's a huge story still so it doesn't seem like it's going away Anywhere quickly. 

[00:37:49] In fact, it's still superseding You the stuff that's going on with P. Diddy, which is big. I know P. Diddy, of course, what's happening there is like being shelved at the moment. So it's there's nothing else [00:38:00] to report.

[00:38:00] Everything that we know is known for now, but with the Menendez brothers, yeah, it's still kicking off. Yeah. So we'll see. So that was Listener Mail. Anything else that you want to add, Adam? 

[00:38:11] No, I think that's a wrap for this week. 

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